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Dubstep · Feb 19, 2012, 09:01 PM // 21:01

So I just captured Life Transfer on my Necro, he is a N/me, and I was wondering if anyone has any good opinions on a good PvE build to go with it? I've been a MM, and a SS nuker, so I'd like to try something different for once

Olle · Feb 19, 2012, 09:04 PM // 21:04

Sadly, lifestealing/degen is not that usefull in pve(or pvp for that matter)

I would stick with SS, or try some of the other more usefull necro elites(foc is fun )

Dubstep · Feb 19, 2012, 09:27 PM // 21:27

I'd still like to play around with it, SS and MM'ing gets boring!

MisterB · Feb 19, 2012, 09:36 PM // 21:36

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Originally Posted by Dubstep

a good PvE build to go with it?

No, not if you choose Life Transfer. Choose Assassin's Promise on the other hand, and yeah, you can blow up PvE. Life Transfer is inferior to lots of elites, and many non-elite skills.

Dubstep · Feb 19, 2012, 09:54 PM // 21:54

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Originally Posted by MisterB

No, not if you choose Life Transfer. Choose Assassin's Promise on the other hand, and yeah, you can blow up PvE. Life Transfer is inferior to lots of elites, and many non-elite skills.

AP calling is boring! I'm looking for a suggestion for a Life Transfer build, I know all about the majority of the Necro's "Meta" builds.

Damian Manson · Feb 19, 2012, 10:12 PM // 22:12

Unfortunately most people will not have good suggestions for a Life Transfer build due to it not being the most useful elite for a Necro, but alas if you have any physicals in your team composition then you can run an orders build to help support them with blood bond added in. Other than that you would be best looking at the skills available and making your own build for reason said above.

I personally don't like the elite myself but added a "suggestion", also you could add in life siphon which together with life transfer gives max 10 degen on a foe
again not very efficient but its up to you really since its YOUR choice on wanting to use this elite.

Edit: I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

Voodoo Rage · Feb 19, 2012, 10:13 PM // 22:13

Well degen is capped at 10, so just throw on Suffering or some other AoE 2 pip degen and watch your heroes kill your foes for you while you contribute 20 DPS. Sometimes skills are labelled bad for a reason.

Dubstep · Feb 19, 2012, 10:34 PM // 22:34

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Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage

Well degen is capped at 10, so just throw on Suffering or some other AoE 2 pip degen and watch your heroes kill your foes for you while you contribute 20 DPS. Sometimes skills are labelled bad for a reason.

Lol thanks, finally someone that's helpful!

ultimak719 · Feb 20, 2012, 12:30 AM // 00:30

Well, if you insist on advice for this elite, I would suggest Arcane Echo your life transfer for an upkeep-able hex. Also, you might as well spec into domination for some useful non-elite skills like Mistrust, Cry of Frustration, and you can use the mesmer skill Cry of Pain to get the degen cap rather than suffering.

LifeGoesOn · Feb 20, 2012, 12:51 AM // 00:51

Hi there.

While i accept that there are other elite skills that are more useful. Life Transfer is my main and most used elite. Using this skill along with my heroes is a good all rounder, there isn't many places i can go where Life Transfer cannot be used. I use it with so many different builds as I find it fun to use.

I mainly use it with Life Siphon to power Necrosis(some heavy ass damage), these combined are so effective together that the other four slots(leaving the eighth for res) can be used for basically whatever the hell you like. Which is a wide choice as any secondary can be added for those four/five. With these three skills, survivabilty I find is incredible. Life Transfer, Life Siphion and Necrosis teamed with Enfeebling Blood, make good use for powering up Discord which can be put on a hero.

Most like to fill there bar with heavy damage. Personally i think there are your heroes that can do that for you. Realising how important my survival is in a team of seven heroes, and how beneficail it is to always keep my health bar barely touched means that sacrificing heavy damage is no problem at all. Me staying alive is i believe far more important to the team than damage. Also having life transfer and life siphion on gives me that bit of extra time to focus on managing the team and/or say something like removing hexes along with a hero if be needed.

Using these skills has the enemy group killed so fast that i even find myself soloing in hard mode with the build, adjusting the last three skills to the type of enemy i am against. Also teaming these with Signet of Lost Souls and high Soul Reaping makes it very hard for you to die.

Try to ignore people when they say it's useless or not worth it. As skills are there to be used and tested whether they are the optimum or not, gaming is ment to be fun not just how fast something can be killed. Using something different to what a certain website says to use is far more entertaining than seeing cloned builds everywhere. So yeah, have fun with Life Transfer. I hope it works out for you, and if not then hopefully you had fun giving it a go

bleh · Feb 20, 2012, 02:33 AM // 02:33

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Originally Posted by LifeGoesOn

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Very similar to how I used it a while ago >_> 2006 :P.
Works well as a "finishing skill" i.e. spike damage then transfer finishes them off, while you change target.

Have to agree that the most important thing for a player with 7heros is to leed the team, thats why monks have trouble w/ 7heros.

Voodoo made a good point about the 10 degen cap and how much direct damage it translates to.
The other point to be made is its an AOE hex with 7+ degen and 7+ regen
that means more pressure on enemys AI to use heals and hex removal I.E. less damage to you, more energy used / wasted by them. + its a cover hex.
The regen takes pressure off your healer / resources, I personally find necro the most needy and wastefull in terms of party heals.

All that said there is no great PVE build and it aint worth taking for your main damage spell.

Dubstep · Feb 20, 2012, 02:49 AM // 02:49

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Originally Posted by LifeGoesOn

Hi there.

While i accept that there are other elite skills that are more useful. Life Transfer is my main and most used elite. Using this skill along with my heroes is a good all rounder, there isn't many places i can go where Life Transfer cannot be used. I use it with so many different builds as I find it fun to use.

I mainly use it with Life Siphon to power Necrosis(some heavy ass damage), these combined are so effective together that the other four slots(leaving the eighth for res) can be used for basically whatever the hell you like. Which is a wide choice as any secondary can be added for those four/five. With these four skills, survivabilty I find is incredible. Life Transfer, Life Siphion and Necrosis teamed with Enfeebling Blood, make good use for powering up Discord which can be put on a hero.

Most like to fill there bar with heavy damage. Personally i think there are your heroes that can do that for you. Realising how important my survival is in a team of seven heroes is, and how beneficail it is to always keep my health bar barely touched means that sacrificing heavy damage is no problem at all. Me staying alive is i believe far more important to the team than damage. Also having life transfer and life siphion on gives me that bit of extra time to focus on managing the team and/or say something like removing hexes along with a hero if be needed.

Using these skills has the enemy group killed so fast that i even find myself soloing in hard mode with the build, adjusting the last three skills to the type of enemy i am against. Also teaming these with Signet of Lost Souls and high Soul Reaping makes it very hard for you to die.

Try to ignore people when they say it's useless or not worth it. As skills are there to be used and tested whether they are the optimum or not, gaming is ment to be fun not just how fast something can be killed. Using something different to what a certain website says to use is far more entertaining than seeing cloned builds everywhere. So yeah, have fun with Life Transfer. I hope it works out for you, and if not then hopefully you had fun giving it a go

Wow, lot of useful information, thanks!

Venganza · Feb 20, 2012, 04:28 AM // 04:28

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Originally Posted by LifeGoesOn

Hi there

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Yeah I use LT most of the time for the above reasons, usually something like this, often with LOD for dungeons.

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LifeGoesOn · Feb 20, 2012, 08:25 AM // 08:25

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Originally Posted by Venganza

Yeah I use LT most of the time for the above reasons, usually something like this, often with LOD for dungeons.

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I really like your build, it looks fun to use. Blood of The Aggressor is pretty much always on my bar with Life Transfer

Voodoo Rage · Feb 20, 2012, 06:50 PM // 18:50

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Originally Posted by Venganza

Yeah I use LT most of the time for the above reasons, usually something like this, often with LOD for dungeons.

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Is Pain supposed to be Vampirism in that build?

KotCR · Feb 20, 2012, 10:22 PM // 22:22

Pain doesn't appear to be in that build, rather Pain Inverter, which is perfectly fine.

Voodoo Rage · Feb 20, 2012, 10:26 PM // 22:26

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Originally Posted by KotCR

Pain doesn't appear to be in that build, rather Pain Inverter, which is perfectly fine.

That's weird, I wonder if its a bug on the PVX decoder:

http://www.gwpvx.com/Special:PvXDeco...o=Submit+Query

drowze · Feb 21, 2012, 04:35 AM // 04:35

The first time I ever went through the game (prophecies) was with my necro, using a blood build.
Life Transfer
Life Syphon
Vampiric Gaze
Shadow Strike
Dark Pact
Vampiric Touch
a rez
I don't remember the last slot, probably well of blood or something

It's way outdated, but it was fun to play. There are enough spammable skills in blood magic like blood of the agressor or something and you can always take soul reaping skills like angarogons gaze. Signet of Lost Souls is also always nice on your necro bar.
And these days you can take 3 pve skills, like ebon assassin, battle standards, pain inverter, ... (I'd keep one slot for necrosis)

It's not the best elite, and it's being frowned upon by many, but I loved it

You have enough options, just tinker with it until you find something that seems to do what needs to be done.

PS: sorry if some skill names aren't 100% correct, I'm too lazy to check them atm ><

Vernphos · Feb 21, 2012, 09:31 PM // 21:31

This skill is not useful for its ability to do damage; its slow at that.

Its real power lies in the +7 regen per affected target that your character gets. This basically gives you +20 life/second, for a long time (and immune to bleeding, disease, burning since you will still cap out at +10 regen).

What do you do with this mass of life? Well, you first use some superior runes to lower your max health. Then you take advantage of many sacrifice skills like

blood ritual and the various orders. Or enfeebling blood. the sacrifice means nothing to you, since you will quickly regen the lost health and do it again. Especially useful to maintain order of pain on your physicals.

So, no its not useless. People these days seem to only care about the raw damage numbers they can toss out and tend to overlook the more subtle parts of the game based on nuance and strategy

Edit/addendum: I have a good friend who LOVES LOVES LOVES ravenous gaze. Do I tell her that it's kinda "meh"? No, because she obviously loves the build she came up with and we've taken it through DoA and FoW without too much trouble. The fact is, she's having fun and that's all that matters...

Deadfalk · Feb 23, 2012, 07:51 PM // 19:51

Blood magic 12+1+2
Soul Reaping 8+1

Random 10 (or max Soul Reaping)
Life Transfer
Suffering
3x[Optional]
Oppressive Gaze
Signet of Lost Souls
Awaken the Blood

Optionals for PvE skills, Curses, Smiting, Channeling, Enfeebling Blood etc.

I like how you choose to be original, but I must confess Life Transfer is one of those skills that are original with a reason; I'd advise you to use Icy Veins or Feast of Corruption for an original fun skill, instead.

Edit : the person above me however does have a point; Masochism + Dark aura spellcasting would give you some serious output while being a good supporter - I did use worse builds on my necro, so it's very well possible.